If you run Windows in one of the virtualization solutions, you don't need to reboot. Anyway, as was said, it's up to the developer to decide if and when they will find it good business to port their applications to Mac OS X. Apple can, and does, evangelize software developers, but the developers have to make the decision and do the work. I would suggest you contact the companies whose software you wish to run and express your interest in native Mac versions, and get all your colleagues to do the same. The developers will make the port only when they see that they will gain sales by doing so.

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With all due respect, you've posted in a thread that's over two years old. Google for instance did not wait for the greatest companies such as Youtube to knock their door asking for partnership etc Nope, Google went out and bought them.

Are you suggesting that Apple go out and buy niche software developers? If so, that's unrealistic since that's not Apple's market nor business strategy. Apple is a consumer electronics company.

Google is not bigheaded, yet they make more money Are you really that uninformed? I woudner what would Steve Jobs say Just what I said above, as he did on multiple occasions.

Steve knew what Apple's strengths were. Are you an Engineer Etresoft? Did you ever contact companies like Autodesk or CSI to try to get an answer from them or to be heard? Also consider that AutoCAD, ETABS and SAP2000 is not couple of tools, is THE TOOLS for Engineers and this topic is for Engineers.

So just accept it that MAC is not for engineering. Engineering is so wide and it needs so many software's and for that moment is this planet are available only for Windows. Don't be a hater just accept it, is talking to you a guy that supports Apple more than anybody but in this field is so behind. So get some experience on the field, try to use some engineering software's on mac and windows, do some research, learn the pros and cons from personal experience and then come here and comment. Do not tell us philosophies of who to contact or what claims to make and what claims not to make. NickZaf wrote: Are you an Engineer Etresoft?

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I do satellites. If I screw something up, Congress asks what happened. Did you ever contact companies like Autodesk or CSI to try to get an answer from them or to be heard? I contact my vendors if I discover a problem that I can't work around and need or want a fix.

If it is something I can't fix on my own, it is going to be pretty tough to track down. I always try to find the exact cause of the problem whenever possible. However, I can't recall ever contacting any vendor just 'to be heard'. They know they are providing a valuable product if I, and other engineers, keep buying it. Just because I find one particular problem doesn't mean the product isn't useful to me or other engineers. Also consider that AutoCAD, ETABS and SAP2000 is not couple of tools, is THE TOOLS for Engineers and this topic is for Engineers.

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I think you are the one that needs to gain some experience. If those are the only tools you use, then you are not 'an engineer', but an AutoCAD/ETABS/SAP2000 user. What did such 'engineers' do before those tools existed? Auto tune efx for mac. There are many different kinds of engineers. You are only talking about civil engineering.

And I have to tell you, among other engineers, civil engineering is not one of the more respected domains. I think this discussion is getting out of place: - All engineers are respected. The tools normally used by Structural Engineers are not avaiable for mac unless you use virtualization.

I use SAP 2000 under a Windows 7 Virtualbox on my mac book air without any problem. There are plenty of opensource codes multiplatform that you could use but that will not be as simple to use as SAP/ETABS. What you (NickZaf) are trying to do is like going to Burger King asking for the MacMenu.

I would recommend you using Virtualbox to run Windows software under OS X and look for other native solutions. By the way, I am also a civil engineer and have been using Mac at work for the past 3 years. I am really laughing with the answers that you giving etresoft, i really do. Your statements are completely philosophical helping nobody in this community.

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As an engineer i am well aware of other solutions and i am using them, the fact is that if you have loads of work and you need many software's to work with, MAC OS is not helping. Its not engineering to make your life more difficult trying to solve problems that are already been solved.Thank you for the real valuable and quick answer armonmar i really appreciate it. To explain the problem of virtual machine working with finite element software's more in depth: I am using virtual machine as i reference before, all the finite element software's that i try to use in the virtual machine (SAP/ETABS/SAFE/CSiCol) they giving different results in analysis, in respect of the shear, bending and the reaction forces from the results that you are getting when the analysis is running on a PC or from the results doing hand calculations. Do anybody have any idea why is this happening? Many fellow engineers have exactly the same problem and they are already switch from MAC to Windows. I will try to run the proses on Virtual Box instead of virtual machine armonmar, i hope it is going to work.

Kindly give me your feedback on these software's (SAP/ETABS/SAFE/CSiCol) if you already run an analysis on Virtual Box or any other suggestions for finite elemetn softwares running on MAC OS for Steel Frame design and Concrete Design. Any feedback on OpenSees a software framework for developing applications to simulate the performance of structural and geotechnical systems subjected to earthquakes, it would be valuable as well. Apple Footer. This site contains user submitted content, comments and opinions and is for informational purposes only. Apple may provide or recommend responses as a possible solution based on the information provided; every potential issue may involve several factors not detailed in the conversations captured in an electronic forum and Apple can therefore provide no guarantee as to the efficacy of any proposed solutions on the community forums. Apple disclaims any and all liability for the acts, omissions and conduct of any third parties in connection with or related to your use of the site.

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